Comments on: Ghost Lab – Disturbing the Peace

By: Fredricka

Fredricka — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:05:42 +0000

I had no idea that most of them were in that group before the show. No disrespect here. The way the show portrays it, it seems that the two brothers are very in charge and telling everyone what to do, and the show portrays that the others don’t have much say….that is how it looks on the show. I have no idea how it is in real life. I do see on the show that although the others don’t seem to have much say, they are heavily relied upon to collect and review evidence.

Yes each show there does seem to be someone that is more in charge, but for some reason the Klinge guys rub me the wrong way…maybe it is a personal thing? Maybe it is that they seem overbearing? In the other shows it seems like you see more feedback and ideas and inclusion from the non-lead members. (minus extreme paranormal, not sure what is going on there!)

TV can totally make things appear to be a certain way, and I am just basing my observations on what the TV seems to portray about these groups. In all honesty, who really knows the true group dynamics and how they really work?

I was just having fun critiquing the various shows since I watch most all of them.

Anyhow, didn’t mean to rub anyone the wrong way…

Thanks for the great feedback!!

By: admin

admin — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:17:42 +0000

Fredricka, it’s funny what you say about Ghost Lab being “team members were carefully picked”. With one exception the people on the show were all a part of Everyday Paranormal when I met them almost two years ago – long before the TV show. The exception I believe is Katie. Or at least she wasn’t with them when I went on an investigation with them at Myrtles Plantation.

So you are quite wrong…they are all just friends that share an interest into the paranormal.

I think each show you mention is similar in the respect that the producers want “someone in charge” – Zak, Grant and Jason etc.

Brad with Barry are certainly the leaders of their group but I’m certain they would agree with the statement that they rely heavily on Steve Harris, Steve Hock, Hector and Katie.

By: Fredricka

Fredricka — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:03:38 +0000

I have been watching all these shows from the beginning.
I personally like Ghost Adventures, in how they only have the three of them doing the investigation and the filming, how they use trigger objects, and try to get reactions out of the possible ghosts, and I love how they put the evidence they found within the actual time/spot it happened. Zak can get a bit nutty, but I like him overall. I get a kick, and have fun watching this show. It is obvious that they are in it to get evidence and have experiences and to share it with us. Not sure how scientific they are because we don’t see much data analysis, except when they go to an “expert” to approve of one piece of data. Not sure if they are in it to help others…because they never show a conclusion with the clients. It is what it is, and I like it.
The Ghost Lab turned me off right from the beginning. Of course I drooled over all of their equipment and the fancy trailer, but their professionalism is lacking. They jump to conclusions way too fast about the data they gather. Also the show was claiming to be super scientific and I was excited about this, but after the first episode I felt they were far from scientific, and were just another half baked “group” jumping to conclusions. It seems like Brad is the BOSS and everyone else is in the background. I also get the feeling that the team members were carefully picked as to represent a vast array of diversity. I don’t get the feeling the crew comes from a paranormal background, but that is just me and my observations. I don’t feel like the other team members get to contribute much and are just bossed around. I would not want to be on their team.
I still like Ghost Hunters. I have gone through phases with their show, but overall I like what they try to do. I like the initial interviews, the bulk of the show, the data review and conclusions, and the reveal. Although I think it is funny how at the end they say to the client, “let’s get outta here” and they leave their computer sitting on the table. For a group trying to help people and to get evidence, I think they do a decent job. Things can get altered though when you are filming for a TV show, especially as long as they have ..
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As for Ghost Hunter’s Academy, I like that we get to watch the rookies get a quick hard lesson on investigating, BUT I don’t like the goofy drama of who is gonna get booted and who is going to stay….very unrealistic and kinda cold, but I guess that is what the producers want. Seems like they were thrown into the situation with very little knowledge then yelled at for not knowing what to do. I never see Steve and Dave showing them how to use the equipment in the best way, giving lessons. It looks like a boot camp. I don’t ever remember Steve being so harsh with Dave when he was first joining up and learning the ropes. Ah….but it is just a TV show….all the bells and whistles so we keep watching. I do still watch this show, despite the unrealistic side of it.

Paranormal State….Well. I like it because they really really care about the clients. They have concern and truely seem to try to help. They do use psychics and psychologists which I think can be helpful. However as far as collecting good evidence in the name of paranormal science, I am not so sure. It would be cool to blend some qualities of the TAPS team with the Paranormal State team. Also it seems like at least 1/3 of their cases they claim to be “demons.” Not so sure about this….and calling on Lorraine Warren….with all the controversy she and her husband have had in this field.

Extreme Paranormal….UG! Just horrible, fake….bad. It may not be totally fake, but it seems like these guys sold out to the entertainment side, if they were ever really true paranormal investigators. I love how they show up to a remotes site and happen to have all the materials they need to pull off a “summoning” or elaborate ceremony to “call in the spirits.” There is something so wrong and just plain Hollywood with this. It is like a bad horror flick with a really bad script. Yes, I do think they memorize lines. Also what was up with them starting a fire, and sawing through the bars, in the New Mexico State Penn??? I hope they got permission to do that. Geeze the pain of watching this….

By: Nancy

Nancy — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:33:43 +0000

Ghost Hunters is WAY fake. Let’s lay this flashlight here out of camera view….OOH! The ghost turned it on! Sorry you didn’t get to see it though!

Ghost Lab is better.

By: elori

elori — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:58:00 +0000

The ghost lab folks don’t seem to question their perception very much at all. We all unconsciously fill in the gaps in our senses with our expectations based on beliefs and past experiences. these guys don’t seem to be aware of that.
They also take way too much stock in the claims of their clients. They believe the histories given them and address the “ghosts” they are chasing as if their existence was factual rather than reputed. They don’t give leave any room open for the “presence” to be someone else, or maybe just residual energy or anything. They seem to have figured out a long time ago what they are searching for and are determined to find it weather it is real or not.
As for “Ghost Adventures,” I don’t believe it to be exactly a fake, but a complete mis-interpretation and mis-representation of their evidence/ experiences. For example in the episode with the well, they claim to have captured a “shadow person” in the basement when they first walk in, but the shadow has movement and scale and positioning consistent with being THEIR OWN shadow or that of one of the camera men. They never, ever, mention that this could be the case, although if they had any real experience/credibility in the paranormal field, they certainly would not ignore that possibility and would do anything they could to authenticate their evidence rather than just accepting it at face value. Ok, thanks for listening.

By: Phil

Phil — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 01:09:32 +0000

Not too impressed so far after two episodes. I’ll give it a season just to be fair. I find them a bit unprofessional and the head Klinge brother tends to rub me the wrong way. I also don’t seem to see much team chemistry. BUT, that’s why I’m giving it a season for my final judgment. I wish them good luck!

By: Andrew

Andrew — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:53:55 +0000

…..oh yes, and data loggers although not seen on any other Paranormal TV show are also a technique that other paranormal groups use. We use USB dataloggers for EMF and TEMP. I have to agree though i dont beleive they claimed that they are the first to use these techniques, they just promote them as being helpful.

By: Andrew

Andrew — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:47:42 +0000

Im a member of a paranormal group and just like the majority of the peeps here i also watch all the paranormal shows on TV. I was also a fan of GH until all the staged evidence nonsense, I also feel that their recent bunch of episodes have been lackluster and a bit boring. I do like GA, those guys are fun to watch even if they can get a little over exuberent. As for Ghost Lab, i like some aspect but not others. They are open to experimentation and have some good ideas, “Era Cues” is good but not new. Been around for a while, i like the term they coined though and they did a good job implementing both the music and playing the colonels messages. Im not a fan of all the cheesy effects that Discovery channel adds, that just inflates what is really straigh up investigating. But i guess it works for ratings. They do seem to be quick to judge about what is haunted and what isnt. Im my own personal opinion 1 EVP and a cold spot, plus a personal experience is not tantamount to a haunting. Theyve had some good EVP’s and a pretty good shadow man pic. And they obviously work hard at ploughhing through the evidence, which ive noticed they go through their evidence during their downtime whilst other guys are in on their shift. This is a good technique i beleive and we do the same. Overall theyre an entertaining bunch (2 brothers anyway) and i look forward to see what else they have to offer.

By: Ghost Reader

Ghost Reader — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:04:27 +0000

Adam…WTF are you talking about going out and “buying” and “putting on a website” and “read more books”? I’m just hear reading everyone’s comments like you. Just that you seem to think your comments are more worthy than others here. I watch all of the shows and get entertained and laugh at how fake a lot of things are or how interesting things are as well. But as I said before, unless you are there to witness and feel and hear things for yourself then don’t place a whole lot of credibility on what the groups and the networks are trying to sell you. It’s just entertainment not something for you to hate on.

By: Bobby

Bobby — Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21:54:36 +0000

Actually, mentioning the playing of Native American music by Ghost Adventures was a comparison to Ghost Lab playing rockabilly as an “era cue” to get a reaction. At the Preston Castle, Zak began acting like he was the “new” guard using terms a guard would have used. Basically the same as the taped comments played in Myrtles by Ghost Lab. Point being…nothing new.

The “Colonel…” EVP was great. How about replaying it aloud and then answering it as if in normal conversation? Just a thought. I only saw the episode one time, was the man living there during the Civil War a Colonel?

Anything ANYONE writes on here has next to zero effect on the show’s success either way. Just random opinions favoring different shows. I’d be interested to know what the Ghost Lab guys think about the Parabot that is going to be used on GA’s Halloween show. I think the one thing Ghost Hunters hasn’t made a point to do is use more experimental equipment.

One of the first things I did notice about Ghost Lab is the absence of loud background sound effects during the show like Ghost Hunters. Gets tiring to hear them say “did you hear that?” when all you hear is halloween background effects.