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 enlarge | Brand: 4 Star Military Surplus
Category: Sports
List Price: $19.99
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Avg. Customer Rating:  29 reviews
Sales Rank: 215
Media: Misc.
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ASIN: B0002X1IOM
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 TERRIBLE!! DO NOT GET THIS IT WILL NOT WORK!! April 5, 2008
2 out of 6 found this review helpful
It is impossible to get a pile of shavings from the magnesium with you knife and even if you do get a pile it will not light with the flint. The flint sparks great but the magnesium does not light I put a match to it and it burned for a mili second it is useless!!!!
 This was the hands down best in the Boy Scouts March 20, 2008
3 out of 4 found this review helpful
A decade or so ago when I was in the Boy Scouts this was, in the opinion of my troop, so good it was like cheating. It was more difficult to start a fire with a single match (which is how the scouts roll; one scout one match) than this. Also it put my little firesteel flint to shame.
I cannot for life of me figure out how people can think this is not the greatest fire starter. We used the backs of the blades our 3" folding knives to scrape off a decent pile of magnesium and then scrape the flint for sparks. The result was always white hot sparks and fire. It never failed. YMMV
Beats using a bow and spindle - I guess January 29, 2008
36 out of 36 found this review helpful
I wonder if the folks who gave this a positive review have tried using it in real life extreme conditions. I have done winter-time camping in the rugged Adirondak wilderness not far from the Canadian border and would NOT want this as my only fire-starting resource. The mag-block style starters do have a piece of "flint" attached to them (a thin, frail one). So you CAN start fires with them. But there are better and easier ways, believe me.
Why don't I like these?
First, the magnesium shavings tend to blow away, making that "dime sized pile" hard to come by if it is windy (which it usually is at the times you need fire most). Also, in a real survival situation, you may have cold, numb fingers and don't want to be playing time-consuming (and potentially dangerous) games with your sharp knife. Speaking of knives, few things will dull a them faster than shaving soft metal. If you do happen to get that "dime sized" pile of magnesium to stay in one place, it will burn up in about the same length of time as a good match head. Good luck.
The bottom line is if you have good tinder you don't need the magnesium. The sparks from a GOOD flint will do (though a wimpy little flint like this may not give ENOUGH sparks). And if your tinder is WET, the magnesium probably isn't going to light it anyway. If I ever feel that I need some magnesium to start a fire (unlikely) I can shave a gram or two off of my pack frame.
My advice:
If you are really going to be OUT THERE be prepared to start a fire in two or three ways . I carry waterproofed wooden matches (OK), a Brunton Helios windproof lighter (better, so long as the fuel lasts) and an Aviation Survival Spark-Lite kit (best - pilots get better stuff issued than the poor grunts do). The Sweedish Firesteels (with a heftier chunk of "flint") seem to be quite good also and I plan to get one.
But MOST IMPORTANT is real TINDER, stuff that lights easily and burns a while (not in a hot flash like magnesium). I always carry some cotton balls, which compact easily, and a dab of Neosporin ointment from the 1st Aid kit makes a good accelerant IF NEEDED. Pine needles & shredded birchbark are hard to beat as natural tinders. They can usually be ignited even if a little damp. Even in a 35 degree driving rainstorm (been there, done that) you can carve into the leeward side of standing deadwood and crumble up the dry-rotted wood, which will also light easily.
Doesn't work easily December 8, 2007
3 out of 4 found this review helpful
Try another firestarter as this one doesn't do the job. Wears out quickly and ineffective.
Disappointing compared with other firestarters November 25, 2007
6 out of 6 found this review helpful
I start alot of fires while camping to keep dry and warm and I wanted to see how this "classic" compared with the Firesteel I have bee using.....boy was I surprised.....how can the military issue this thing with such better tools available....its a pain to use and if its windy, FORGET IT! your shavings will blow away. It also appears to wear quite fast. I recommend Swedish Firesteel or another Firesteel product.
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